It's crazy to me that around June 2020, [the CDC was...
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It's crazy to me that around June 2020, [the CDC was estimating case fatality rates for COVID-19 between 0.25% and 3.0%](https:/…
It's crazy to me that around June 2020, [the CDC was estimating case fatality rates for COVID-19 between 0.25% and 3.0%](https:/…
Nevertheless, given the residual uncertainties, health sector decision-makers and disease modelers probably should consider a…
> from symptom onset to intensive care unit (ICU) admission was 11 days (IQR 7–14 days); and from **ICU admission to death was…
That would be interesting to know. Although I wonder if some of these deaths occurred before there was enough time for a…
> https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article That article is for CFR not IFR. Holy shit how can we be this deep…
Oh wow! You googled something and clicked on the first link and incorrectly interpreted some numbers! I wish I was smart enough…
Back in June it was \~13 days [https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320\_article](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20…
I’m not an expert, just some guy. Google the infection fatality rate. It’s a wide range from as low as 0.1% to 0.66%. It…
>2-3 Wochen afaik. CDC…
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article Averages, my man. Nothing in statistics says "everyone dies in 14 days".
why do you keep throwing around easily proven false statements? ​ [https://fullfact.org/health/covid-ifr-more-01/](https…
We know the virus travels through aerosolized droplets and that even non-n95 masks are effective at stopping these droplets and…
Not so fast there Scout. Remember to look at the case rate time lag for fatality risk when determining who wins the election in…
???? Ok so where do they link it to school? She died after 3 weeks in the hospital. Their schools opened just recently. Even…
At this point, UF will only close down if one of three things happen: A) Shands and North Florida Regional have no more ICU…
Remember that hospitalizations/deaths are lagging indicators. You don’t immediately need ICU as soon as you catch the disease.
False. That is their lowest estimate of the range not the actual figure. CDC estimates anywhere from .2 to 3%. https://wwwnc.cd…
Yes, I'm also thankful for that. One additional implication of the recent change in definition for Recovered cases pertains to…
The median time of death is 13 days. The article time line muddy and doesn't match the title. A few days after the party to be…
So first to correct you saying I said that the death toll is only using deaths caused by coronavirus, I never said that, never…
> Memorial Day is at the end of May, Week 26-30 is July. \ Summer travel. But also the CDC data show that the uptick begins…
I actually did google it. I searched *Covid-19 onset to death time* and clicked the first few results and they told me... * [*m…
I live in a world where we read posts, think critically about them, and then respond with a reasonably thought out post. I…
> The number of deaths is not growing proportionately to the case increases. Well, that just changed here recently. Your…
I was over at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/ looking at the graphs, and noticed something interesting.
BTW, found this at CDC, it states 4.2%: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article It specifically notes that it…
That's not a "global sample size", you blithering idiot, that's a meta-analysis of all the various other studies done on swine…
The deaths will start to increase with time. Covid-19 doesn't kill immediately - there's a median 13 days from pneumonia…
I'm not sure if the statistic proves that the death rate has improved. The median number of days between onset and death…
Hospitalizations lag case numbers by about a week and death numbers by about 2 weeks. [CDC source](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/arti…
> So you want to guess rather than use known quantities? Not I would rather its the way the professionals who do the modeling…
I think that's the point though, now that we understand it more it doesn't need to be house arrest if we just be smart about it.
Math, again, wrong. Here’s the CDC’s analysis of the CFR. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article “We…
Nobody knows for certain what the time lag is, but the WHO cites 2-8 weeks. I don't buy the low end of that estimate, as from…
Fine, I will deconstruct your argument and show how you mix facts, lies, and out-of-context facts to push your message. >It…
> At the moment, the 5% is the most accurate case fatality rate the data supports. CDC says case-fatality risk is somewhere in…
> The average death is 28 days after infection. Is citing stats without evidence like, your kink? It's 13 days from pneumonia…
[It's at least five times that.](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article) [Which means about a million…
That's not quite the right number to use to estimate the delay between an uptick of positive cases and an uptick of deaths. …
[Median time from infection to symptoms is 5 days.](https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/03/09/coronavirus-incubation-period/) I'm rather…
>Lower estimates might be closest to the true value, but a broad range of 0.25%–3.0% probably should be considered. https://wwwn…
There's a couple of problems with this assessment: First, **Pre-symptomatic and Asymtomatic are** ***not*** **the same thing.*…
>Based on infection fatality estimates from the published literature,1 we estimate that Ontario’s infection fatality ratio is 2.8…
In the Arizona data it has "*Illness in the last 4-7 days may not be reported yet." There is always reporting lag with these…
I notice you give no references. From the [CDC 2019 - 2020 seasonal flu statistics](https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/prelimin…
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article. According to this it will be an additional two weeks before today’s…
I really didn't want to come to this comment, but I initially didn't even bother looking into your core claim of 0.4% case…
>Yeah...but the precedent is closing down localized economies. Thats what you were arguing. I am absolutely 100% talking…
>Are you saying this type of study has been done? Because I don't think it has been done, and therefore according to your post…
I get the healthcare systems being overwhelmed argument, but our systems didn’t get overwhelmed and while there will be a…
While it's true there's no definitive mortality rate yet, most estimates are around 0.6%. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6…
You get numbers like that when you divide the number of deaths by the total number of resolved cases (deaths + recoveries).
I haven't seen us been told in the news the difference between CFR and IFR which is an important distinction. >The IFR differs…
> The maximum incubation period is assumed to be up to 14 days,2 whereas the median time from onset of symptoms to intensive…
I’m not going to waste my time with unreliable sources when every estimate the[CDC] (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-03…
\- R-Naught of Swine Flu was estimated to be between 1.4 and 1.6. \- R-Naught of COVID-19 has is estimated to be between 2…
\- R-Naught of Swine Flu was estimated to be between 1.4 and 1.6. \- R-Naught of COVID-19 has is estimated to be between 2…
> As of April 6 (2 weeks prior), there were 2475…
We can't be sure that this isn't a plateau before another rise. Deaths are a trailing indicator of the current state since…
I'm skeptical too, but the average time from infection to death *is* almost three weeks. Average 5 days incubation + death…
> In some places where they started doing random testing they've found the actual number to be 10x or more infected than the…
>If we use three percent as the fatality rate that's 90,00 deaths. Could be higher, but we're running well below that right now…
The infection fatality rate is quite low: >Taking account of historical experience, trends in the data, increased number of…
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article Somewhere between 0.25% and 3%. You may notice even the extreme low end…
I hope he means total cases, which includes all the infections the testing hasn't caught. Check out some back of the envelope…
Let's also talk about the infection fatality ratio. >Our estimated overall infection fatality ratio for China was 0·66% (0·39–1…
[THE FUTURE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4oaVNPKzQg) Or this - >Taking account of historical experience, trends in the…
I appreciate that you have a calm tone on here. I just don't agree with how you are framing this at all. We are looking at the…
> Nu vad nimic din comentariul tau care sa invalideze numerele mele. Incearca sa citesti articolele si poate vei intelege de…
>Covid deaths don't take a fortnight from hospitalisation (when infection would be confirmed by testing in the uk). https://www…
the cdc seems to believe it. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article
If you look at only cases with an outcome, it looks much worse: 46,000 deaths / 239,000 [deaths + recoveries] is like 19%.
The 2% estimate is taking into account the factors you are talking about here. If you did simple arithmetic based on current…
Can't find the exact source but found this: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article Mentions a median of 13…
Fair points. But consider this. If this disease ran its course were likely looking at a .25-3% mortality rate. That’s if we did…
I think you can estimate actual infected from knowing that 0.6 percent of patients die. So since 441 died yesterday that gives…
> Have you transported someone asymptotic for a wildly different chief complaint only to have them decompensate and die within…
The CDC (a bit more reputable than Vox by the way) itself is estimating [.25%-3%.](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320…
The CDC range is up to 3.5% https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article Some locations in Italy are seeing over 10…
I don't know where you're getting those numbers, but the [CDC estimates](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article…
In China, the COVID-19 case count death rate varied from about 1% in areas of the country where the healthcare system wasn't…
Yeah, about 3-4million in the US if one assumes 60% of 320 million people get infected and [2%](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article…
There's literally no way you're computing the mortality rate correctly. [Source.](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320…
Without citing any sources you will get downvoted. Provide facts to backup your argument and it will make it much harder for…
don't forget about lag; [Case-Fatality Risk Estimates for COVID-19 Calculated by Using a Lag Time for Fatality](https://wwwnc.c…
Because Covid-19 is much more deadly than the flu. The flu kills approximately 2 people per 100,00 infected (~.02%). [https:…
Oh... you want hard data do you? How about the CDC that [released a study showing case fatality rates at 3.5% in China](https://w…
I don't know why you think epidemiologists are unaware of all the things you're saying, they say as much in the article....
The 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is spreading globally; as of March 5, 2020, cases were reported in China and 85…
Thank you. My source is below: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article To note, I’m a bit confused on the 17…
> Many virologists seem to think the actual TOTAL deathtoll will be closer to .1% when we start doing serialized testing. …
[https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320\_article](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0320_article)
You cant explain which numbers you disagree with or why but you hate that it disagrees with how you feel. I know this will be…
>This sub doesn't seem to understand that we can't have both the current predicted death rate, and also have way more cases…
You don't get the virus and die immediately. 13 days ago (median time for fatalities) we had 200 cases. that's a 4.5% fatality…
Alright, I'll concede I stopped skimming too early. Let's work with those CDC numbers... And to be generous, we'll assume it…
I see. Thank you for clearing your criticism up. I had not realized that Italy's rate was not being corrected for non-tested.
Its forecasted on the CDC website. They estimate mortality numbers to be between .25% and 3%... I dont know the current world…