26/ (And an antibody survey in Spain found roughly the same level.) https://t.co/u1FUoffJ9m
Also raises questions of whether a vaccine is possible.
After looking at 62k ppl who contracted #Covid19 only 5.2% developed long lasting antibodies. China initially reported a ~14% re-infection rate. All this says is that #HerdImmunity is not possible without a vaccine. https://t.co/UL7HMP6OeX
No vaccine =no herd immunity https://t.co/QchMZwrzuJ
Only 5% seropositive. Only 1/3 of seropositives assymptomatic Prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 in Spain (ENE-COVID): a nationwide, population-based seroepidemiological study https://t.co/ckujN9nVNV
@AndyGrewal Youyang Gu who has what many consider the best C19 model says its close to 30% https://t.co/BhiTdfF7cj
@zorinaq @ddolgov @C_Althaus Your link now goes to an empty page, but I found the final published version of the article here. (Later draft, same results.) https://t.co/1LuUSfaxfw https://t.co/7qD09GmBJF
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
Prevalence of covid in Spain (first wave)
Spain https://t.co/wFgcwD85tM Switzerland https://t.co/OAZ8z0SalV Lombardy, Italy https://t.co/VaxY2tVpY3 UK https://t.co/aAbebxYSvp 7/13
RT @adisetyop: Ini layak banget buat dipublikasikan masuk jurnal. Rapid test antibodi dari Cina memiliki sensitivitas 83% dan specificity…
Ini layak banget buat dipublikasikan masuk jurnal. Rapid test antibodi dari Cina memiliki sensitivitas 83% dan specificity 99%. Positif blm tentu sedang menularkan covid, ia cuma bilang lo pernah kena covid. Desainnya sama dengan studi ini https://t.co/
75. Er volgt nog: Het PIENTER serologisch onderzoek (links) versus serologisch onderzoek uit andere landen (e.g., Spanje rechts, rood meest betrouwbaar) https://t.co/2R6sTCSsMd https://t.co/VEeH9xYJ29
@mgmgomes1 If HIT would be reached at 10-20%, what would be your explanation that Madrid is now seeing such a big 2nd wave, with all hospitals full again, given that 13% is already seropositive? https://t.co/Nh0Q3Dp3be
@cedmonkey Genoeg voorbeelden van grote 2de golf op plaatsen waar reeds 10-20% van de bevolking het virus opliep tijdens 1ste golf, bv. Madrid, waar 13% seropositief is, https://t.co/Nh0Q3Dp3be, maar waar ziekenhuizen nu terug vol liggen... Assumpties van
@_MiguelHernan Seroprevalence in Madrid as of July was near 10% NYC was 23% in May. That’s apparently the answer. https://t.co/FEFBlxgpxJ. @mgmgomes1
Her er kilder som understøtter ovenstående estimat: CDC's bedste estimat: 40 % https://t.co/ODSqYrD2It Meta-analyse fra mange studier: 15,6 % https://t.co/S2gI4ASbgN Studie fra Brasilien: 26 % https://t.co/sriIP9HDDV Serologistudie fra Spanien: 22 - 36% ht
@Rock_IRELAND @MlMcNamaraTD @Toibin1 @FatEmperor @ronan_glynn @President_MU You realise what you have just said undermines your own premises. https://t.co/pc1KyJyyRZ
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
@EdConwaySky Hi @EdConwaySky I think you’d appreciate this take on it https://t.co/pc1KyJyyRZ
@adam_shniderman @thefactualprep Madrid seroprevalence.
I don’t see how NYC & surround can have a big surge this fall, though I worry about the returnees (assuming they actually return, that is) Also wonder when the many who’ve had COVID become susceptible to a 2nd go
@DoubleEph It was around 15% in early May and probably closer to 20% now. For Europe, there is strong evidence the epidemic is no longer as well mixed as March/April so lower deaths now. the opposite is true for S. America on the other hand. https://t.co/3
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
RT @Alicia_Smith19: @HumphreyBohun I think this may be a better read as to why https://t.co/LojZwUc4Xr
RT @ScottHansen04: @AlistairHaimes @_MiguelHernan @nataliexdean NYC has about double the seroprevalence of Madrid. He claims they're about…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
This is completely wrong (that’s why he doesn’t cite to any actual measurements of seroprevalence). NY’s is 2-3 times Madrid’s (see https://t.co/Ynk01NIeIE vs https://t.co/HpKKgg0K4Q).
RT @youyanggu: @ashishkjha This is not quite a fair comparison, IMO. NYC's seroprevalence is 2x higher than Madrid's. That can make a large…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
@HumphreyBohun I think this may be a better read as to why
@_MiguelHernan Great thread! I only know one proper seroprevalecence study in Spain pointing to extremely high levels of seropositives already before summer, it is though as you point out unclear how herd-immunity has contributed https://t.co/uxJcWJFegH
Again evidence of HIT at 25% for COVID. It’s not the lockdowns
@DavidColetto Also interesting, turns out he basically made up the seroprevalence in both places. NYC's is roughly double that of Madrid's according to the study he himself cited. Seems this thread is an argument in pretty bad faith. https://t.co/Td3xaLqV
RT @youyanggu: @ashishkjha This is not quite a fair comparison, IMO. NYC's seroprevalence is 2x higher than Madrid's. That can make a large…
RT @youyanggu: @ashishkjha This is not quite a fair comparison, IMO. NYC's seroprevalence is 2x higher than Madrid's. That can make a large…
The one caveat I'd add to this (excellent) thread is that I do think a higher percentage of New Yorkers than Madrileños have Covid-19 antibodies. In the Comunidad de Madrid (which seems similar to if not identical the metro area) it was ~11.5% in April/May
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
Spain study: https://t.co/0UKI2zbUkv NYC Study: https://t.co/8YZGRlgTSI
RT @youyanggu: @ashishkjha This is not quite a fair comparison, IMO. NYC's seroprevalence is 2x higher than Madrid's. That can make a large…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
RT @KenGardner11: This is how we beat the virus. This is how we beat any coronavirus. Herd immunity, vaccines, and better treatments. And c…
RT @youyanggu: @ashishkjha This is not quite a fair comparison, IMO. NYC's seroprevalence is 2x higher than Madrid's. That can make a large…
RT @KenGardner11: This is how we beat the virus. This is how we beat any coronavirus. Herd immunity, vaccines, and better treatments. And c…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
RT @youyanggu: @ashishkjha This is not quite a fair comparison, IMO. NYC's seroprevalence is 2x higher than Madrid's. That can make a large…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
This is how we beat the virus. This is how we beat any coronavirus. Herd immunity, vaccines, and better treatments. And common sense precautions, especially if you are sick or already have a compromised immune system.
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
RT @youyanggu: @ashishkjha This is not quite a fair comparison, IMO. NYC's seroprevalence is 2x higher than Madrid's. That can make a large…
@ashishkjha This is not quite a fair comparison, IMO. NYC's seroprevalence is 2x higher than Madrid's. That can make a large difference. https://t.co/RnocjZbcvO A better comparison might be Metro LA. They largely followed expert advice and still saw a si
Those blasted facts getting in the way of narrative again!
@youyanggu @_MiguelHernan Thank you for replying @youyanggu. That was a critical error in his analysis. NYC was at 27% last I checked https://t.co/CY3z0ha3FD
RT @youyanggu: @_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC serop…
@_MiguelHernan While I agree with many of your other points, this statement regarding seroprevalence is not true. NYC seroprevalence is 20-30%. Madrid seroprevalence is 10-15%. https://t.co/WuqwOMtfLu NYC’s prevalence is double Madrid’s and it’s mislea
@AlistairHaimes @_MiguelHernan @nataliexdean NYC has about double the seroprevalence of Madrid. He claims they're about the same but in reality no evidence to support that https://t.co/CY3z0ha3FD
@BioTurboNick @ottartwain @_MiguelHernan @nataliexdean @FT Last I checked NYC seroprevalence was ~double that of Madrid. Thoughts? https://t.co/CY3z0ha3FD
@_MiguelHernan Where are you getting your figures for seroprevalence? Last I checked NYC was about double that of Madrid: Madrid: 10-15% https://t.co/UvlUpsN7vZ NYC: 27% https://t.co/FGEtkzmNbI
Madrid seroprevalence data is here: https://t.co/MBTZRMUFr3 NYC from the CDC as per May 1 https://t.co/ANy73YKmAJ
(non confundir co ENE-Covid estatal, finalizado e cos resultados publicados en @TheLancet) https://t.co/NQe2EAdSQ2
@GMMeyer yeah, I remembered 20% as well, but according to this Madrid was "only" at ">10%" https://t.co/6lpHoM6ZuC
@JamesTodaroMD @dishwash_expert So basically you are excluding almost all past deaths lol. Why not just exclude all moments except the very present and say the death rate is zero? Seems tests showed antibodies in 5% near the end of April after most deaths
@drjawalsh @john_lichfield https://t.co/DyV9fFfvx3 - a bit over 10% in and around Madrid is your answer it seems
هناك مصدر يتابع هذه الدراسات بشكل دوري https://t.co/x02qTDVIrL https://t.co/wbr3kV7Txu المصادر https://t.co/5LvfgE1Jiv https://t.co/ENQNbI7LAt https://t.co/vwvpFY1O58 https://t.co/OVuLrVNODY
1/שלום לתומכי ״חסינות העדר״, אני יודע שקשה לבלבל את הטענה המסוכנת הזו עם עובדות אבל בספרד היו 249,000 מקרים מאומתים, 28,000 מתים, ועם זאת סקר סרולוגי שנעשה עי משרד הבריאות הספרדי הראה סרולוגיה חיובית ב 5% מהאוכלוסיה. רחוק מלספק חסינות עדר. https://t.co/M
@gummibear737 /4/ Intra-country Mobility might be a big one when considering Madrid as an epicenter - https://t.co/y51jKGcAeC - https://t.co/tHZ0Z1ma3R - https://t.co/3R6fB5LmB9 https://t.co/E9u5oOWxuw
@stevebrown2856 @ScienceShared @mgmgomes1 @rfsquared @theosanderson @Groggles1989 @mlipsitch @nataliexdean @cmyeaton @ashishkjha @CT_Bergstrom @d_spiegel I fear you may have mistaken me for Google, and Maranhão State is not Manaus, (which is the capital of
@JFSchaff @Waki_daisho @raoult_didier Pas de différence notable entre travailleurs et confinés, sauf pour le secteur de la santé : https://t.co/Ux1MDoe7US
RT @observatorio14: @ElcenitdeSidus @mianrey @carpepo Repase a Sagan, que veo lo usa en su descripción. En cualquier caso, para sostener mi…
@ElcenitdeSidus @mianrey @carpepo Repase a Sagan, que veo lo usa en su descripción. En cualquier caso, para sostener mis afirmaciones me baso en estudios publicados y no en hilos de twitter. Ya se lo he pasado, ahora, si quiere, lo lee https://t.co/KgpKAl1
Prevalencia del SARS-CoV-2 en España (ENE-COVID): estudio seroepidemiológico poblacional de ámbito nacional https://t.co/MHwGDTRE2H PMID 32645347
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@PsyberAttack @fascinatorfun OK yeah that's not great at all. 5.7% positivity as well :ooo https://t.co/pGzocTxYvo Worth noting that estimated seroprevalence (in July) in Madrid (~10 - 13%) was lower than I thought I'd read actually, and so would only b
@gillott_john @BEEnnis Although this actually suggests POC antibody tests pick up same/similar number of positives (false or more sensitive?). https://t.co/pGzocTxYvo Maybe in answer then to your original question lol: Right now, I just don't know. http
@vargasjhona1 @callelosnobles @TrujiYo España (obvio es UE) https://t.co/vdyX0m69rp
@johncardillo That is absolutely ridiculous! Come on, I'm not a covid-19 hysteric, but I do believe in data and facts. Those studies show roughly 2-15%. https://t.co/cCR3d0yHYH https://t.co/AorEWughyJ
@diazvillanueva @Prof_Franz Éste texto (primer párrafo) se puede leer en la guía de actuación ante casos de COVID-19 en centros educativos publicada por el ministerio de sanidad. Si no lo interpreto mal son más de 2 millones de casos. La referencia citada
@AlexBerenson This is not true. The only seroprevalence data released for Sweden was for the city of Stockholm, and it was just 7% https://t.co/2OnjOrNg3W seroprevalence in Madrid is over 10%: https://t.co/mwt0N9b1H2