@Dissenting2020 @SolidEvidence Boni et al (https://t.co/W949d4zYzU) proposed that SARS2 did not gain an RBD. Rather, RaTG13 LOST its RBD AFTER the split with SC2. I agree with that reasoning. Its more parsimonious AND now that the missing RBD has been foun
@ban_epp_gofroc @JamesCTobias RaTG13 was found in July 2013, 9 months after the miners got sick. Our reading of the phylogeny follows Boni et al (https://t.co/W949d4zYzU): RaTG13 LOST its SARS2-like RBD AFTER the split with SARS2 but BEFORE it was sampled.
The really sad thing is that you are politicising in a completely unscientific way and probably know perfectly well that it is a Sarbecovirus in which no FCS has been found. https://t.co/XizpbymR8H https://t.co/p4LvPT4EQP
@SoothSpider @Wood_House76 @jengleruk https://t.co/XizpbymR8H Sarbecovirus lineage. No FCS ever found.
@yutanpa151849 https://t.co/YGJoF2TQJg なら、どうぞ。 自分で読んでください。答え書いてますから。
my read of "The Science™️" <insert Nature microbiology citation> is "there are outstanting evolutionary questions." https://t.co/tnvnt12bwP https://t.co/abB2qah9b4
@anthony_beaulne The progenitor virus families are well known: https://t.co/vDA8tpRasG
@anthony_beaulne I'm not claiming---this is known information. It's not debatable. SARS-CoV-2 progenitors are endemic to China. https://t.co/vDA8tpRasG
@anthony_beaulne Viruses don't come from out of nowhere--they have a evolutionary ancestor they evolve from. Also, no one has made a virus de novo from scratch, ever. It is well known that the progenitor viruses are endemic to China: https://t.co/vDA8tp
RT @CD57227: Bob Garry, March 19: "We think the virus is a recombinant." Andrew Rambaut, April 13: "Despite the SARS-CoV-2 lineage’s acqu…
RT @CD57227: @Rebecca21951651 @DrTedros @mvankerkhove @DrMikeRyan @JeremyFarrar @ChristianeDole1 How about Andrew Rambaut authoring a paper…
RT @CD57227: @Rebecca21951651 @DrTedros @mvankerkhove @DrMikeRyan @JeremyFarrar @ChristianeDole1 How about Andrew Rambaut authoring a paper…
@Rebecca21951651 @DrTedros @mvankerkhove @DrMikeRyan @JeremyFarrar @ChristianeDole1 How about Andrew Rambaut authoring a paper in April 2020 saying the spike protein doesn't show evidence of recombination? https://t.co/FL5QdrTlGv
RT @CD57227: @JoshRosenau @jbkinney Evidence for zoonosis only keeps accumulating in the scientific literature because the (self-)debunked…
RT @CD57227: @JoshRosenau @jbkinney Evidence for zoonosis only keeps accumulating in the scientific literature because the (self-)debunked…
RT @BiophysicsFL: Remember all those 'RaTG13 diverged from SARS2 decades ago!' and "the lineage giving rise to SARS2 circulating unnoti…
Remember all those 'RaTG13 diverged from SARS2 decades ago!' and "the lineage giving rise to SARS2 circulating unnoticed in bats for decades" news stories from 2020? The same person just supervised an article about how wrong that was. https://t.co/
@sandypuke @ProfKarolSikora Covid2 is an ancestor of Covid1, each have been DNA sequenced! https://t.co/0P1O44Y4vG
@mkeulemans @volkskrant kunnen jullie ook hier eens naar kijken… verhaal van @DrDMartinWorld in Europees Parlement?
30/ Plus dat corona niet een, maar TWEE keer op de mens lijkt te zijn overgesprongen. Dat duidt op: dieren. https://t.co/V5HE5pb16G
@rt7683 @jason_willz1 @SwaledaleMutton You have as much chance as getting through to them as you do of getting through to a typical flat Earther. https://t.co/lLZN0KvxiF https://t.co/twY4QXL9NY
RT @les_vaxxeuses: @BMitsakis @Acermendax C'est le même bullshit que Montagnier. L'origine du virus a été confirmée. https://t.co/E4RrGK09cz
@rt7683 @jason_willz1 @SwaledaleMutton Ended as expected with non-expert lab leak conspiracists. https://t.co/lLZN0KvxiF https://t.co/qS4YH5O4wW
#covid1948 1948 (95% highest posterior density (HPD): 1879-1999), 1969 (95% HPD: 1930-2000) and 1982 (95% HPD: 1948-2009), indicating that the lineage giving rise to SARS-CoV-2 has been circulating unnoticed in bats for decades https://t.co/f3cJYAq5Sn
@jude_hatley @nicolascgrey @edwardcholmes @MichaelWorobey @CNRS_Paris @safimichael @INEE_CNRS Yup. Shows recombination can occur among divergent viruses, just what that non-expert conspiracist disputes. https://t.co/iUfhCj9DVw He ignores the word "recent
@stevenemassey Turns out, there's a bit more to this.. https://t.co/OQjRHzQ3Ml
RT @BillyBostickson: @stuartjdneil @AntGDuarte @edwardcholmes Well, Tang et al. wrote about this in Feb 2020, way before Pekar, Rambaut, Bo…
RT @BillyBostickson: @valanvir @edwardcholmes Yes, Tang et al wrote this in Feb 2020, way before Pekar, Rambaut, Boni, Worobey & Garry chim…
@stuartjdneil @AntGDuarte @edwardcholmes Well, Tang et al. wrote about this in Feb 2020, way before Pekar, Rambaut, Boni, Worobey & Garry chimed in to claim credit. e.g. https://t.co/QpclWekMjW & https://t.co/7LZ3UdCLeo This in fact explains wh
@valanvir @edwardcholmes Yes, Tang et al wrote this in Feb 2020, way before Pekar, Rambaut, Boni, Worobey & Garry chimed in to claim credit. e.g https://t.co/QpclWekMjW & https://t.co/HMBAbGOcLj This in fact explains why the mysterious article
Recombination between CoVs occurs frequently, making RNA introductions, substitutions and deletions highly probable, as we see with the XBB variant. This makes a zoonosis probable. https://t.co/IF91uqDrFf
@PragueArtist @joshrogin Here’s another, including authors from Scotland & Belgium, again peer reviewed. https://t.co/PugF2qUB97
RT @ClaudioAzat: 4/6 y la lista es larga… (solo unos pocos ejemplos) https://t.co/Ejl5UqWUdu https://t.co/kf3AuY5Zia https://t.co/6Z5uu1…
4/6 y la lista es larga… (solo unos pocos ejemplos) https://t.co/Ejl5UqWUdu https://t.co/kf3AuY5Zia https://t.co/6Z5uu1GcAE https://t.co/MdzCQp84LI https://t.co/ojmELZpzBc https://t.co/RYkRN8sN30 https://t.co/oZyTZ9Um0V https://t.co/xip8kEYOr2
@PyotrKBezukhov @Javier__CB Pues hombre, gran parte de las pruebas apuntan a un origen zoonótico más que un origen de un laboratorio. https://t.co/LFDAtOa6CY https://t.co/zFLBGdx2NW
@gadboit @realZenelan @WashburneAlex like here, is this accurate? Although im equally skeptical of the bat origin theory 😅 & nature has sadly produced much crap propaganda... https://t.co/38m8qJdHd6
@Epaladini22 @agustinromm Esto que indica que el linaje que dió origen al SARSCoV2 ha estado circulando entre los murciélagos por décadas, sin ser notado Es decir, su origen es natural y China no tiene nada que ver en él https://t.co/H7kmLyUavc
Papers confirm evolution; no genetic engineering: https://t.co/AlD3kMCise
@momoexpressions That's not exactly true, here's more context: https://t.co/6REoCh5Lm5 I'm saying people are exhibiting functionally identical symptoms and refusing to get a test, so not milder but identical.
@HouseGOP Start here. https://t.co/Ad5RTi8PK2
@CD57227 I think different species would be a proper description. The separation between the viruses, evolution-wise is decades old, according to this paper. https://t.co/AjGxYcrX0q
@Dario412DNB @jimmy_dore Thank you for proving a point Your link is to a pre print paper that will NEVER be published Here , unlike your trash, is a Peer reviewed published article on the zoonotic evolution The scientists especially virologists know i
https://t.co/qFO28nKCLb 二重感染→子孫に表現型の混合 https://t.co/gFlbm1SrMB 偽typing 図4 🧬再配列を含むが限定されない🦠子孫へ変化もたらし、SARS-CoV-2やpandemicインフルAのようなpandemic riskを持つ新株を生み出す https://t.co/1aGAjmdFoT https://t.co/4pUZaiX5DU *Labo説もあり🤔
@BlakesWort Es wurde eben überhaupt nichts dekonstruiert. Das hier könnte ggf. helfen. https://t.co/JZyqNDJM9t
RT @CD57227: Bob Garry, March 19: "We think the virus is a recombinant." Andrew Rambaut, April 13: "Despite the SARS-CoV-2 lineage’s acqu…
RT @CD57227: Bob Garry, March 19: "We think the virus is a recombinant." Andrew Rambaut, April 13: "Despite the SARS-CoV-2 lineage’s acqu…
@zhihuachen @henri_mourant @emmecola @MichaelWorobey @ScienceMagazine @jepekar @mstandaert Well, according to this article, the answer is no. The virus's evolutionary history appears to be in the bats. Have there been any new findings on this issue since 2
@Cernovich @TakeThatDarwin Which virus are you working on and confused about? Have you thoughts bout checking the science journals? Science is very certain COVID-19 came from bats, for example. https://t.co/GbAwLYgBzy
@kimjohnfun @EricRWeinstein @EcoHealthNYC @TheLancet @PeterDaszak How long does a coronavirus take to diverge 4%? RatG13 has 96.1% nucleotide and 92.9% S match. "the divergence time estimate for SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is 1969 (95% HPD: 1930–2000)" That's a
RT @robertson_lab: @breakfast_dogs @sciencecohen @john_jxw @blJOg @SpyrosLytras there was pretty good sampling of the SARS-related coronavi…
RT @CD57227: @JoshRosenau @jbkinney Evidence for zoonosis only keeps accumulating in the scientific literature because the (self-)debunked…
@JoshRosenau @jbkinney Evidence for zoonosis only keeps accumulating in the scientific literature because the (self-)debunked stuff doesn't get retracted. Any serious conversation about zoonotic origins starts with retraction of Proximal Origin and the La
@BiophysicsFL @sciencecohen Maybe they should have retracted their paper at some point. https://t.co/FL5QdsaWy3
@WahnSager @piefinator Und du weißt nicht wie es ohne Impfungen wäre. Coronaviren gibt es mindestens seit den 60er Jahren, sogar die in Fledermäusen (https://t.co/eRbec8iy2S). Mit großer Wahrscheinlichkeit ist eine Vorimmunität gegeben und weiter verbreite
@Biorealism And then, a month and a half later: Bob: "We think it's a recombinant." Narrator: "It's not a recombinant." https://t.co/FL5QdrTlGv
De Belgische viroloog Philip Lemey duikt plotseling overal op als één van de deskundigen, die zeker weet, dat de dierenmarkt #Wuhan de bron is. Het zal wel. Back to the future 2020 #SARSCoV2 is al tientallen jaren in vleermuizen. https://t.co/FZ4huEjWHs
RT @CD57227: Bob Garry, March 19: "We think the virus is a recombinant." Andrew Rambaut, April 13: "Despite the SARS-CoV-2 lineage’s acqu…
RT @CD57227: Bob Garry, March 19: "We think the virus is a recombinant." Andrew Rambaut, April 13: "Despite the SARS-CoV-2 lineage’s acqu…
RT @CD57227: Bob Garry, March 19: "We think the virus is a recombinant." Andrew Rambaut, April 13: "Despite the SARS-CoV-2 lineage’s acqu…
Bob Garry, March 19: "We think the virus is a recombinant." Andrew Rambaut, April 13: "Despite the SARS-CoV-2 lineage’s acquisition of residues in its.. RBD.. the divergence patterns in the S protein do not show evidence of recombination" WTF, Andrew??
@CPChristianLibe @SkepticCyclist @SkeptiQld @HourRutger @NebojaS @pinkheretic @_CROPES_ And yes, post google-warrioring, I can confidently say that evolutionary science can also be used to determine where covid came from: https://t.co/LZeKvjPUeH
@CPChristianLibe @ZaBong69 @Martin46623636 @SkepticCyclist @NebojaS @pinkheretic @_CROPES_ I think I've already explained how insisting on this super niche question is kind of stupid But to cut this short: "Evolutionary origins of the SARS-CoV-2 sarbecov
@Florin_Uncovers Otherwise it makes little sense: https://t.co/aFHahK8p6z
@4TheGreenBelt @Graybea71861266 @Florin_Uncovers @nicolascgrey @_everythingism @ETVPod @stuartjdneil @KingsCollegeLon @KCLalumni @GurusPod @profvrr Re: "As time goes on, balance of probability moves ever closer to a leak & further from the market" Tel
@Rossana38510044 @_everythingism @MicahGoldrich @Biol4Ever @humourme101 @stuartjdneil @scotub @jaredpretender @InWuchang @Graybea71861266 @Stephengm99 @FrancescoEsp33 @past_is_future @CD57227 You simply didn't know what you were talking about RaTG13, both
@AxDevelopment @RIPlaliberte @JulienPain https://t.co/OhujztXrYO https://t.co/9kwDfp2CTn https://t.co/wOS0xA4x9R https://t.co/punLCdNYrp Tu feras gaffe, ça change de France Soir.
zu 2⃣ aus einem anderen Virus (im Labor) gezüchtet wurden in der Zellkultur, da individuelle Segmente (wir erinnern uns: #Mosaikgenom) von natürlichen Viren SC2 evolutionär näher sind als z.B WIV's RATG13 & man Rekombination nicht 'faken' kann (Q: htt
ちょっと古い記事だが新型コロナが70年から40年前に存在してたという記事 これと最新の研究を組み合わせると50年ぐらい前には既に存在していた可能性が高い https://t.co/0iXUDYW3Du
@Graybea71861266 @PhilippMarkolin Someone who actually cares about learning about a scientific topic, @Graybea71861266, reads reputable scientific sources on the topic. They don't spam tweets from their fellow paranoid non-expert nutcases. So read the pee
@breakfast_dogs @sciencecohen @john_jxw @blJOg @SpyrosLytras there was pretty good sampling of the SARS-related coronaviruses in China which allowed us to more or less immediately place this into the context of the emergence of the first SARS virus, e.g.,
RT @suzuki_takaya: ゲノム解析の3種のモデリングによりコウモリコロナウイルスの中でSARS-CoV-2の系統が別れたのは1948年前後から1982年前後(前後は十数年の幅あり)かもしれないという、やってることは全くわからないが言っていることはとてつもなく面白い…
@AllakerLouise @DisplacedGenius @Keith54650020 The virus has been isolated multiple times and sequencing shows it is a completely unique virus +https://t.co/Oqztt9zBnt +https://t.co/1atocHxBZw +https://t.co/yhfw85Pi9m +https://t.co/Uygjxw21uH +https://t.c
@emmecola @stuartjdneil @K_G_Andersen @angie_rasmussen were advancing a year ago? Common, this is all BS. Here, to refresh your memory: A ) https://t.co/FRoxk9utoW B) https://t.co/v5PG4i9GOX And now I wasted more time just because of dishonest attentio
RT @AtomsksSanakan: @ddddddddaadsfsd @Graybea71861266 @MichaelWorobey @TheSeeker268 You have no clue what the evidence-based consensus is,…
@ddddddddaadsfsd @Graybea71861266 @MichaelWorobey @TheSeeker268 You have no clue what the evidence-based consensus is, because you're a non-expert paranoid conspiracy theorist who doesn't read the published literature written by those with more expertise t
@ddddddddaadsfsd @Graybea71861266 @MichaelWorobey @TheSeeker268 Stop being lazy and go read the published evidence. it's not everyone else's job to fix your willful ignorance and baseless paranoia about experts who know more than you. https://t.co/yfeo4oo
@ddddddddaadsfsd @Graybea71861266 @MichaelWorobey @TheSeeker268 I'm not going with Jacobs. Instead Jacobs and I have are going with evidence from published experts you paranoid conspiracists are too lazy + disingenuous to read and understand. Please stop
@TheSqueaker268 @Graybea71861266 @PhilippMarkolin Re: "He probably hasn't even read the source material." I doubt you've read + understood a peer-reviewed virology paper in your life. 🙂 https://t.co/yfeo4ooJxj
Here is a neat study into the evolutionary origins of the current coronavirus. It turns out the genes responsible for COVID19 have been in bats for decades! #muevolution22 https://t.co/6JCtIrvx1g
@MJnanostretch @ClimateOfGavin @past_is_future That's nice. We've heard your same sort of song-and-dance before from HIV conspiracists. I'm going with the published evidence, not your paranoid non-expert musings outside of it, just as on the origins of th
@Adam_Creighton @ozsage recombination https://t.co/LD8TCN1pPX
@CT_Bergstrom The main papers I cover are: 1) https://t.co/hgspgf8OEq 2) https://t.co/SDx8ppxuc5 3) https://t.co/f3AT1ZGEsg 4) https://t.co/N9fdjhrlfO 5) https://t.co/aKRuXjdqOx 6) https://t.co/qbJ8I4Cvk8
@MJnanostretch @Biorealism Re: "COI is also a very real problem here" Already went over on the other thread why your COIs are made-up (ex: conflating expertise with COIs). Re: "It is extremely plausible." To a non-expert conspiracist who doesn't read th
RT @OscarGenomics: en concreto su ancestro común sería de hace entre 30 y 40 años. Y los viajes a Yunnan para traer murciélagos que Alina C…
@MJnanostretch @past_is_future Your evasion is noted. Let me know when you bother to read the published literature on SARS-CoV-2's origin and evolution, as exists for HIV, SARS-CoV-1, etc. The science on pathogen origins doesn't need to follow your non-e
@WazzyR12 @mstinson1234 @past_is_future @emilyakopp @stuartjdneil @STWorg Go do your homework, conspiracy theorist. 😉 https://t.co/yfeo4ooJxj