@SchweitzerID The obvious 🐎 in the room.. the obvious: quite a few Americans 🇺🇸 sentiments = individualism is # 1 priority; 2nd: maybe family; 3rd: friends? 4th: community, slim chance? .. “me first” mentality= a main contributor USA’s Covid exponential sk
@wwaycorrigan @Bogota @ClaudiaLopez @MinSaludCol @WHO Scientists from the Lancet have criticized the Great Barrington Declaration and the whole herd immunity approach. This is worth a read: https://t.co/6dGhi8itSa
DEATH - in Catastrophic Proportions https://t.co/9QueAufJud
@tr6_guy @bobscartoons I think you need a vet to explain what HI threshold is. Alternatively read this for why HI policies ex mass vaccination are nuts. https://t.co/4VhQGeksoz You will see the ref to Manaus. Now Google Manaus under 'News'
@PrLantern @Nibor_Tolum Aucun exemple n'y est donné pour une infection naturelle et pour cause... Là les choses sont claires avec des exemples https://t.co/bT4izuCaLY
The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 Why proposals to largely let the virus run its course — embraced by Donald Trump’s administration and others — could bring “untold death and suffering”. https://t.co/jLFO4NEBYc
RT @jeremyrhammond: This Nature article also notes, contrary to the @nytimes' characterization of 60% as a lower bound for #HerdImmunity th…
@martmoney2 @micalrg @bfialek Prawdopodobnie mniej, tzn. 60-70% https://t.co/grOCodWQP7
@JuliaHB1 “We have to face reality — never before have we reached herd immunity via natural infection with a novel virus, and SARS-CoV-2 is unfortunately no different.” https://t.co/fmeRr9dw2I
The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/ztk540OxMj
Excellent thread!
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This Nature article also notes, contrary to the @nytimes' characterization of 60% as a lower bound for #HerdImmunity threshold estimates, that it has been estimated as low as 10%: https://t.co/GtadkE2Eqc
@RichardJonkers2 @wskamphuis Tsja, de toekomst weten we nooit. Maar als een Titanic op een ijsberg afvaart is het toch handig de koers te veranderen, ook al weet je niet zeker dat het schip zal zinken na de botsing. In Brazilië zie je dat infectie lang doo
RT @josefslerka: The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/sb9CQhJSKz
RT @josefslerka: The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/sb9CQhJSKz
@emochoa50 @CSUMB Herd immunity typically requires 80% of the population to be infected or a have protective vaccine. Also herd immunity almost always requires unnecessary loss of life because of a lack of public safety. https://t.co/sWieZBmEMC
@HalikRafa 65%, 1 - 1/R0 Tu dyskusja nt przypadku Manaus i ryzyku polegania na konkretnej wartości herd immunity https://t.co/ytw4DJoD5q
RT @josefslerka: The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/sb9CQhJSKz
RT @pablocerdeira: Os efeitos de imunidade de rebanho para COVID-19 só devem ser alcançados com algo entre 60% e 70% da população vacinada.…
RT @josefslerka: The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/sb9CQhJSKz
Zdroj: jeden z top vědeckých časopisů Nature..
@MardeeJessop The person I visit in LA is a Yale genetic epidemiologist. They are staying at home. I haven't done a complete literature analysis but the cost of herd immunity is too high. ( It's the might of the night here do I haven't read the entire art
RT @josefslerka: The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/sb9CQhJSKz
RT @josefslerka: The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/sb9CQhJSKz
The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/sb9CQhJSKz
@YourMam42155505 @Proud_Mama1 @AtcoWayne @ezralevant in case you are interested not dumbed down for you https://t.co/sTp1saFILw
Hoe het Braziliaanse #Manaus laat zien dat het Nederlands streven naar #groepsimmuniteit onmogelijk kan zijn. Zelfs na vaccinatie is het niet zeker of er duurzame resistentie of immuniteit ontstaat tegen #COVID19 toch laten we het virus doorkabbelen. https
@AndersonCryptoP @jebus911 I encourage you to read up on 'herd immunity' in a science journal First, there has NEVER been herd immunity to any virus without a vaccine Any discussion of herd immunity without a vaccine is not supported by any scientists or
The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/D5gcy7X1bm #TrumpTapes #HerdImmunity #Biden #COVID19 #HealthcareHeroes
@paws101 Yeah. Nah. Herd immunisation is herd immunity, not herd infection. https://t.co/dLtHUsGchH
Natuurlijke groepsimmuniteit nastreven is GEEN maatschappelijk aanvaardbare strategie en bovendien in alle waarschijnlijkheid compleet onhaalbaar. Vaccineren is de enige uitweg.👇
@RW_Crank @Rose90544108 @CBCOttawa @ottawahealth Except herd immunity without vaccinations is a myth. https://t.co/FYG4w0J3Yf
@sarah_cnockaert Wetenschappers stelden in Nature dat natuurlijke groepsimmuniteit waarschijnlijk niet haalbaar is (besmetting beschermt misschien niet lang genoeg), dat in de praktijk nooit behaald is en het nastreven met een hoge dodentol gepaard gaat. 1
ThankTrumpForCovidSpread The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19 https://t.co/IRlFqTYqxd
@GailSouthern3 @Katheri97471567 @AllysonPollock @BBCNews Reading you tweets about the over 60's and we all die of something shows you don't care. The fact you question the deaths shows you are in COVID denial. The quest for herd immunity would bring untold
@Kateee_94 @tinklerbell95 @YellowGoyangi @subhakarim Herd immunity through vaccination is why we now don't have to worry about polio, for example, or measles, like we used to. https://t.co/uO3KyuHejd
Always good to remember than immunity as a concept is fleeting when dealing with COVID-19, so this situation can only be 100% bad. https://t.co/zYbPsBYlmY
RT @iJakeReyna: @JohnArnoldFndtn @markgongloff But immunity could be fleeting and herd immunity is a myth. https://t.co/X8SjF0Gad4
@JohnArnoldFndtn @markgongloff But immunity could be fleeting and herd immunity is a myth. https://t.co/X8SjF0Gad4
@JJindahouse1 @darlene_mock @DrBenTapper1 Natural herd immunity has never been attained with a novel pathogen. Attempting to attain it will cause untold death, suffering & the likely collapse of healthcare systems, and deaths of non-COVID patients. ht
@LBC @MaajidNawaz Nature of a the world's foremost medical publication, this article also references a supporting article which counters the principle of herd immunity. I suggest you get your presenters to get credible sources and also listen to @ShelaghF
@jaroszek_kamil @michalkowalowka Ja mam inny pomysł: zamiast bawić się w kanapowych epidemiologów posłuchajmy ludzi, którzy wiedzą o czym mówią. BTW, mamy już 3 mutacje genu kodującego białka S tworzące "ciernie" wirusa, na tyle istotne, że nasze testy RT
@ARealCanadianL1 @mcfunny @Matt_Baierl @checkmatestate @KStateTurk @KindrachukJason A herd immunity approach would result in the loss of millions of lives. It didn’t work for the Swiss. You have been misinformed: https://t.co/nhQ3FS8a95
RT @HaydeeF14: 1. What is herd immunity? Herd immunity happens when a virus can’t spread because it keeps encountering people who are prote…
@oddsmaker55 @BrandonCee @TimRunsHisMouth Don't stop to think why only one of these viruses swept the world in less than a year infecting 82 million people, killing 1.8m? Just possibly C19 is vastly more infectious? C19 given us 1st truly global pandemic s
RT @Marita_1010: Absolute BS, suddenly a rash of bots and trolls are trying to tell us our immune systems aren’t good enough and that herd…
RT @Marita_1010: Absolute BS, suddenly a rash of bots and trolls are trying to tell us our immune systems aren’t good enough and that herd…
RT @Marita_1010: Absolute BS, suddenly a rash of bots and trolls are trying to tell us our immune systems aren’t good enough and that herd…
RT @HaydeeF14: 1. What is herd immunity? Herd immunity happens when a virus can’t spread because it keeps encountering people who are prote…
RT @Marita_1010: Absolute BS, suddenly a rash of bots and trolls are trying to tell us our immune systems aren’t good enough and that herd…
@marcorubio Has anyone taken a science or statistics class? All of this is dependent on knowing more than we actually know about #COVID19, estimates are the best we can do and based on other diseases we have always been looking at needing >75%. https:/
@marcorubio No one that understands what hers immunity is thought that it would be achieved at 70%. Educate yourself and then you will know when someone is giving you the low end of a possible range vs. a hard number. #COVID19 https://t.co/5GiEVKV7Ei
@_InThisTogether @Glenntwts @CovidiotCup @PoppyMeze @emmakennytv Spanish Flu springs to mind. You logic is flawed I'm afraid. https://t.co/faocOqLxKp
@marcorubio 2... equation. Individuals who become ill with the disease can experience serious medical and financial consequences, and many people who have recovered from the virus report lingering health effects.” https://t.co/0ueq4LzEd0
RT @RLombardVance: @Hugsforlife3 @MichaelRosenYes @mojos55 @Peston @TheLancet Explainer in @Nature on what herd immunity actually is, on th…
@PhilipP61447562 @ThorleifBorleif @ClareCraigPath I am unsure as to your understanding of the science surrounding infectious diseases, but maybe this may help a bit https://t.co/8f83vjY9sM
@20dumpsterfire @BrandonCee @TimRunsHisMouth From WHERE are you now getting any herd immunity nonsense? >Attempting to reach herd immunity via targeted infections is simply ludicrous,” says Kristian Andersen, a Californian immunologist. “In the US, pro
@humbirdo_tre @Bamadawg2000 @IsaacDovere Can you explain why this article states that % for herd immunity changes based on effective reproduction rate of the virus then? Effective reproduction rate is an imperical value and is never 100% accurate, and ther
@jwoooom @MartyWestin @BrandonCee @TimRunsHisMouth Your denial = death. https://t.co/rDZOPA21p9
@bd_tbd @Bamadawg2000 @IsaacDovere Give this a read, I hope it will provide some context to your confusion. Ultimately the change in number of inoculations is not malicious, but due to a constantly changing effective reproductive rate (R_e). https://t.co
@joekothe @WirralSquirrel8 @Bamadawg2000 @IsaacDovere I think the disparity between us is context. I've link an article that I think will be useful. I hope you give it a change. https://t.co/PqicHAJm0p
@ChrisjHowerton @Bamadawg2000 @IsaacDovere Good reading material. May help clear up some questions. https://t.co/PqicHAJm0p
Just dropping here this explainer on what herd immunity actually is, on the extreme danger & potential/likely futility of pursuing 'natural' herd immunity, and how "vaccination is the only ethical path to herd immunity", and likely the only effective o
@Hugsforlife3 @MichaelRosenYes @mojos55 @Peston @TheLancet Explainer in @Nature on what herd immunity actually is, on the extreme danger & potential/likely futility of pursuing 'natural' herd immunity, and how "vaccination is the only ethical [and like
@skyepuppy @DWUhlfelderLaw 70% of 328,000,000 would have to be infected. about 229,000,000 Even if ONLY 🤦 one percent die, that's 2,290,000 DEAD. That's acceptable to you? 🙈 we have never had a herd immunity without a vaccine) https://t.co/JdtTvnajFq
Koronavirus tarttuu huonosti, sitä on edelleen Suomessa vähän. Silloin kun se iskee niin jälki on tätä. Jos uusi variantti on oikeasti tarttuvanpi niin kuussessa ollaan. https://t.co/ct0rMLCRYR
@nordski68 @BrandonCee @TimRunsHisMouth From WHERE are you getting this herd immunity nonsense? >Attempting to reach herd immunity via targeted infections is simply ludicrous,” says Kristian Andersen, a Californian immunologist. “In the US, probably on
@Georgeberger @DrKatrin_Rabiei @barttels2 @VPrasadMDMPH Anti-vaxx dont use a full definition of "herd immunity"...seems the more popular def is "herd protection." Their history argument has nothing to pull from. there has never been a situation where we
@DeiseDolmen @MarieAnnUK https://t.co/XLQBVF5GGj Glad to see someone use logic. This article provides broader evidence...
@A91970170 https://t.co/XLQBVF5GGj Yea you should go tell your class that. Immunity has never been shown to work via natural infection...ever...