@keithschnak @ethanbdm @researchremora @soashworth @Nolan_Mc @ianRturner Here's a good paper from Aaron Clauset and others that may be of interest (he has a few on this subject) https://t.co/S0s2GqUP0Y
Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/tss11ONpCt
@DeanAstumian @Judithdemel are you serious Dean? Go to the faculty listing of virtually any top 5 school and look at where the faculty go their UG - PhD - PD or you could read this handy-dandy primer which shows how the top programs essentially hire one an
@naz_andalibi How many PhD students do those 5 graduate? (don't get me wrong, there's a huge inequality/hierarchy problem, e.g., https://t.co/Kk1RTkTJIC)
https://t.co/GFcuW7oq7B Across disciplines, prestige hierarchies make the most accurate predictions of faculty placement, with AUCs ranging from 0.58 to 0.67
RT @vela_group: Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
RT @vela_group: Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
RT @vela_group: Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
Very interesting! Curious about the situation for physics, materials science, etc.
RT @vela_group: Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
It's worse than we thought, you guys....
RT @vela_group: Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
RT @vela_group: Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
RT @vela_group: Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
RT @vela_group: Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
Remarkable findings - similar trends for history, computer science and business. In @ScienceMagazine . Important reading for all who hire faculty.
Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/BXGISx6ts4
For everyone sitting in hiring committee right now, please read.
For those sitting on a hiring committee right now. Pay attention to your notions of excellence.
for the homies trying to be academics.. elitism and class privilege rings loudest
@kalebgerm Wait til you read this one: https://t.co/ExPlol4lBF
4/ Comparing the steepness and inequality of hierarchies these models could produce with our 2015 Computer Science, Business, and History faculty hiring networks, we find that only two of the models produce realistic hierarchies https://t.co/mFN7lfxz7V
Models of directed graphs
@karlrohe Lots of examples (and models) in the social hierarchy & ranking literature. * https://t.co/dJDNWPaooj * https://t.co/FR8GvGimip * https://t.co/DXlrV8ufz6
@nikhil_ndeb @thePhDandMe In CS, Business, and History, we basically see that the vast majority of profs go from a higher prestige PhD to a lower prestige faculty job. Lots of data and analysis in this paper, if you're interested! https://t.co/DXlrV8ufz6
@thePhDandMe It's the same in other fields. Buh. https://t.co/XoqTgSv6AS
9/ Ideal candidate profile? Notice this is step No9. In a bad process, this will be No1. Two tasks a) Neutralise the laundry list by asking whether candidates should be rejected if missing this or that item and b) Challenge prestige bias https://t.co/7u1
@EDAnalyst @BCynamon That being said, I think if you DO have something concrete to predict, there's some traction. For ex: we ranked departments by their ability to place their PhD graduates as faculty. These ranks aren't universal, but I think they are "
RT @pushingarrows: @FindlaterGroup @ProfArmani @FuturePI_Slack @ScienceAdvances I think a lot about this paper whenever these conversations…
yup!
@FindlaterGroup @ProfArmani @FuturePI_Slack @ScienceAdvances I think a lot about this paper whenever these conversations pop up: https://t.co/uGdyAeGTq8 Prestige of training intuitions seems to exert a huge effect that is robust across humanities/science
@JJ_Emerson My favorite confounding factor that the 'defenders' would ignore: https://t.co/U575SyUdNn
@drdevangm https://t.co/IuHUfgU4LM here is the paper. I had it wrong in my head, uses DATA from CMU, paper is NOT from there.
@aemonten well —https://t.co/2Y0EZ8jOvM — Harvard or Stanford, or Berkeley, or MIT or Caltech or Cornell or CMU or Princeton or Yale or Washington, but yea ...
@TrevorGriffey @Catherineoscopy Nice research, but not relevant to small liberal arts college hiring. “Institutions in our sample were selected from comprehensive lists of Ph.D.-granting academic units within each discipline.” https://t.co/haQgMtBUxz
RT @nilamk: On the social inequality and influence of institutional prestige in faculty recruitment https://t.co/LpR1F9fC9X
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
@yozzoh 학교 이름(랭킹)이 얼마나 중요한지에 관한 불편한 진실을 보여준 연구가 있었죠...허허허.....ㅠㅜ https://t.co/HqYlddzDW7
@josephseering @morganklauss This is empirically a thing. But lots of factors here including the choices that students are making. Self-perpetuating. https://t.co/hmVnui7fuN
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
@JAldrichPL @alpha_convert @TaliaRinger This paper primarily: https://t.co/5PvvSnloVg, but @aaronclauset and co-authors have done a lot of work on this.
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
@KevinZollman @mslapointe @docfreeride The one I referred to in another branch of the thread is based on the method in this paper, which looks at centrality in the hiring network https://t.co/BI49N8vMOF
Economic inequality = poor gets poorer. Academic inequality = students from less prestigious universities stay out of academic system. This is such a shameful and corrupted system! https://t.co/P22XS7ylWc https://t.co/imezzQVrdE
RT @OsborneLab_UBC: @aaronclauset @alliecmorgan @laberge_nick @DanLarremore @MikeGoldVan @ninan_abraham1 thought you’d both be interested…
@aaronclauset @alliecmorgan @laberge_nick @DanLarremore @MikeGoldVan @ninan_abraham1 thought you’d both be interested in this, and a related paper mentioned in a comment below https://t.co/PfRk23OYXn
A follow-up to my previous tweet. https://t.co/wQEaQ8CbOy
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
Surprised not.
Been thinking about this lately, what if departments just stopped hiring mit/stanford/harvard/etc PhDs (but not Cal undergrads :)? Just wondering what would happen... https://t.co/0tMVJxl8K6
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
RT @alliecmorgan: @JeffHavig @aaronclauset @laberge_nick @DanLarremore I think you are gonna love this paper by some of my coauthors on PhD…
RT @bremen79: @ridingtyphoon Having done my PhD in Italy and then moved to US, I am painful aware of this. There is even a paper on this ef…
@ridingtyphoon Having done my PhD in Italy and then moved to US, I am painful aware of this. There is even a paper on this effect: https://t.co/Zfse2azMzi Yet, I personally value mental health above it.
@GarciaLabMS @SammonsLab You may be thinking of this paper - they find that prestige of training institutions is a major driving factor in where people eventually get faculty positions. Harvard, Yale, etc., very highly weighted https://t.co/vs89AxmUdL
Consider, too, how most hires come from a small number of schools (varies by field). I have never attended an R1 or "elite" institution. I assumed I'd have to go industry after my PhD and was quite lucky to land a TT job. Lots of inequity in this system.
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
@hormiga @Kim_RoadtoPhD Here's some of that BS: https://t.co/k2rgVom4bY
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
RT @SKBLab: This virus is spreading. Some Universities are “gate keeping” by using “rankings of the University of education” even in PhD a…
This virus is spreading. Some Universities are “gate keeping” by using “rankings of the University of education” even in PhD admissions. An abominable practice.
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
“we find that faculty production (number of faculty placed) is highly skewed, with only 25% of institutions producing 71 to 86% of all tenure-track faculty” https://t.co/mrjVRVFZ9g
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
RT @DORAssessment: "Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profoun…
"Across disciplines, we find that faculty hiring follows a common & steeply hierarchical structure that reflects profound social inequality." More of @aaronclauset's work quantifying the influence of institutional prestige on hiring practices here 👇 ht
@Sakiera_Hudson @PaoloAPalma @Ivuoma and this is another one: https://t.co/oVOPwBnl7j
@luispedrocoelho Your nice post was my "food for thought" this morning! I think I agree with you, but would be curious to what degree this could really be quantified (the sports vs. Hollywood nature). I remember some nice studies like https://t.co/H1Q
Systematic inequality and hierarchy in faculty hiring networks https://t.co/vbhjJiamSt
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
This is interesting! Wish we could see the same analysis for astro. https://t.co/oVwe86NE3E
@tanvir_h @Leah_EEE
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
RT @Frutag33: In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicant…
In order for this program to succeed, fellows need to become faculty. So if departments base hiring decisions on an applicants having a certain CV do not expect HGF fellows to have made decisions other than what is currently defined as successful. https:
RT @NeilLewisJr: @jayvanbavel And the academic hiring version of this: https://t.co/N4Cl2EHnlR
RT @aaronclauset: @josephenderson @dbeard @ljgolder Hi! 👋 Our 2015 paper studied all faculty at all PhD-granting depts in 3 very different…