Can I mark myself up? The p-value does not relate to 'chance' alone. All random error/ chance relates to something. The p-value is the probability of data related to a specific hypothesis (usually the null). I'll go with the ASA on this one: https:/
@gwern @23andMeResearch @Dan_J_Benjamin @PKoellinger @DPosthu @AbePalmer @biorxivpreprint "A p-value... does not measure the size of an effect or the importance of a result" https://t.co/IP9ShAP7yG In this case, low p-values are found all over genome wit
@davidawaldron @HistDem @AdamBeeEcon @Kobbini @ASA_SciPol @cocteau @Aaroth I encourage you read the discussion in https://t.co/EEiDSqyoLI, especially supplemental materials. 23 distinguished statisticians discussing the problem, and potential solutions.
No existe la inferencia inductiva con rigor: existen modelos hipotético-deductivos. La inferencia estadística es modelo hipotético-deductivo, pero no es infalible y al ser % no se validan per se, solo por ello, las hipótesisº. Ojo con p-valor y su uso: h
RT @ten_photos: American Statistical Association speaks out on p-values... First explicit recommendation in its 177-year history. https://…
@lonnibesancon @f2harrell @john_slp Can you show where the ASA literally recommended 'not using significance levels at all for scientific experiments'? This is something you actually said and is not cherry picked... Here's their actual statement: https://t
RT @drmichaellevin: "The ASA's Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose" https://t.co/HIRHhNSqIA
RT @drmichaellevin: "The ASA's Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose" https://t.co/HIRHhNSqIA
"The ASA's Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose" https://t.co/HIRHhNSqIA
RT @mbrookerob: Wasserstein, Ronald L., and Nicole A. Lazar. 2016. “The ASA’s Statement on p -Values: Context, Process, and Purpose.” The…
RT @mbrookerob: Wasserstein, Ronald L., and Nicole A. Lazar. 2016. “The ASA’s Statement on p -Values: Context, Process, and Purpose.” The…
RT @Hposso: Remember: Confidence intervals rather than p values https://t.co/COk2I6rb2Y
RT @Hposso: Remember: Confidence intervals rather than p values https://t.co/COk2I6rb2Y
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @Hposso: Remember: Confidence intervals rather than p values https://t.co/COk2I6rb2Y
Remember: Confidence intervals rather than p values
RT @mbrookerob: Wasserstein, Ronald L., and Nicole A. Lazar. 2016. “The ASA’s Statement on p -Values: Context, Process, and Purpose.” The…
Wasserstein, Ronald L., and Nicole A. Lazar. 2016. “The ASA’s Statement on p -Values: Context, Process, and Purpose.” The American Statistician 70 (2): 129–33. https://t.co/6kY57F4Idd. The American Statistical Association one Effect Size. #LAC18
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
This has been something I’ve seen stressed much more frequently in recent times. P-values are NOT the end all be all. Interpretation and literacy in research is of paramount importance.
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
RT @ken_rothman: @bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it…
@bj_cairns @EpidLife I'm not a stats educator, but I have been advocating estimation over testing for decades. Mostly it seems that nothing changes, but if you take the long view, there has been some movement. For example, there is the ASA statement: ht
@altmetric A3.3 Another good example would be The American Statistical Association’s @AmstatNews 2016 statement on p-Values https://t.co/38LIfgLPai - an important statistical model (often mis)used in many fields #altmetchat https://t.co/pC9QTFXFDl
Scientific reasoning The ASA's statement on P-value misuses and misconceptions https://t.co/dJ81uEOkjo
@ra_fun @DLBHATTMD @DrDerekConnolly P values help you judge the likelihood that the null hypothesis is true, but there are ways that studies can be wrong that a p value doesn't take into account. Here's more on that: https://t.co/2snURd2dK8 https://t.co/gW
RT @davidlederer: Can't say enough bad things about p-values. Here's a reminder (i guess mostly to me) about what p-values are and what the…
@rjwthree @saralpulit "Scientific conclusions... should not be based only on whether a p-value passes a specific threshold." Population frequencies and effect sizes are necessary for determining relevance, as is a good understanding of population structur
RT @iamdavecampbell: ASA statement on p-values: https://t.co/llNdiXuQTi #birsmath relates to #StatisticalClarity but doesn't address langua…
RT @iamdavecampbell: ASA statement on p-values: https://t.co/llNdiXuQTi #birsmath relates to #StatisticalClarity but doesn't address langua…
RT @iamdavecampbell: ASA statement on p-values: https://t.co/llNdiXuQTi #birsmath relates to #StatisticalClarity but doesn't address langua…
ASA statement on p-values: https://t.co/llNdiXuQTi #birsmath relates to #StatisticalClarity but doesn't address language per se
Not new, but P values are not the be-all-end-all for evaluating scientific hypotheses: https://t.co/RL7pjhLR2z
RT @ken_rothman: @dscharf3 @irishinneburg Even the American Statistical Association supports the point that @dscharf3 is making. From thei…
RT @ken_rothman: @dscharf3 @irishinneburg Even the American Statistical Association supports the point that @dscharf3 is making. From thei…
@dscharf3 @irishinneburg Even the American Statistical Association supports the point that @dscharf3 is making. From their official statement: "A p-value, or statistical significance, does not measure the size of an effect or the importance of a result."
@JacobPlieth Nice article, but definition of p is not correct. p denotes the probability to obtain the data found under the assumption of a specific statistical model but not the probability that a finding is due to chance. See statement by the Am Stat Ass
RT @mbrookerob: You know it's serious when the American Statistical Association puts out something and says "we've been sounding the alarm…
You know it's serious when the American Statistical Association puts out something and says "we've been sounding the alarm about this for decades." https://t.co/aiqBfVtpkt
@lonnibesancon "5. A p-value, or statistical significance, does not measure the size of an effect or the importance of a result." https://t.co/Gz2QmT1pYX Might take a bolder reviewer to dispute the ASA on statistical practice? 3/3
RT @MaartenvSmeden: @kaz_yos From the ASA statement on p-values: https://t.co/mnTRsWU1if https://t.co/QbMyj44WpU
@kaz_yos From the ASA statement on p-values: https://t.co/mnTRsWU1if https://t.co/QbMyj44WpU
@AMAManual You’ll notice, for example, that this statement on P from the American Statistical Association uses the convention I describe: https://t.co/PfPuZ9XfzG
@Eric_Fauman @SbotGwa The other issue is that these plots put priority on p-value, which is not appropriate. "A p-value, or statistical significance, does not measure the size of an effect or the importance of a result." https://t.co/IP9ShAP7yG We've dis
RT @SpencerJamesMD: I started including a slide or two on fundamental stats principles in my weekly team meeting slides. The members of my…
RT @SpencerJamesMD: I started including a slide or two on fundamental stats principles in my weekly team meeting slides. The members of my…
RT @SpencerJamesMD: I started including a slide or two on fundamental stats principles in my weekly team meeting slides. The members of my…
Regarding the P-value: it is just about a difference of some kind (degree) between two leaves, two apples, two coins, two colours. And that is all about the P-value. It is just an introductory measure. https://t.co/n4rD0c0VjC
I started including a slide or two on fundamental stats principles in my weekly team meeting slides. The members of my team seem to like reviewing these topics. This week, I'm discussing these summary points from the American Statistical Association. https
The ASA's Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose is still #FreeAccess. You can find it here: https://t.co/sTqKkej4ZD @AmstatNews @Ron_Wasserstein https://t.co/oS4uTrnuKw
@lastexposfan Amen! Moreover, see the ASA's official position statement on the use (and abuse) of p-values: https://t.co/bPkR4vzZEz
@wgervais @OstlundOllie @AndrewPGrieve @bmwiernik The odd interpretation IMO is the claim that a p-val is not evidence. Even the ASA statement on p-vals (https://t.co/k7puCxaUBf) says it is evidence against a null, but also cautions to not *only* report a
Look here for a more detailed explanation of the @AmstatNews statement: https://t.co/859a4fA0Gy Or here for the full statement: https://t.co/sC8QWjAcMp #pvalues #ScienceMatters #mathMatters #FactsMatter #FactsNotFear
@Duinhiron @MihoJnvr @Visions_Science I'm not sure I would. Defining *a* scientific method is a very difficult unsettled problem that many philosophers and statisticians are tackling. Many key features like p-values are harshly criticized by, eg, the Ame
@sTeamTraen @annemscheel That's worked well so far. https://t.co/tx5Nh6iW4o
@makennedy101 @JShendure Problem #4: Results should be ranked by a statistic that is related to the difference between groups. A p-value, or statistical significance, does not measure the size of an effect or the importance of a result. Use p-values togeth
@Eric_Fauman @SbotGwa "A p-value, or statistical significance, does not measure the size of an effect or the importance of a result" You can be *really* confident about an effect size, but if that effect size is functionally equivalent to zero, then the p
@sakamping "P-values do not measure the probability that the studied hypothesis is true, or the probability that the data were produced by random chance alone." Ich sehe diesen Fehler ständig, deshalb der Hinweis... (https://t.co/8fvhW36gYQ)
"Statistical significance is not equivalent to scientific..." https://t.co/PsecPKAO6F
este link es el "me destruiste la infancia" para quienes les damos importancia a los asteriscos del p-value en una regresión https://t.co/HV1wVv5ePC
NO, this is not what a p-value means Clinical Trials, End Points, and Statistics—Measuring and Comparing Cancer Treatments in Practice https://t.co/Yio6Ql8hlC See (again): https://t.co/RWEUbULpKv
The American Statistical Association’s Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose https://t.co/Y4LldQplL3
@johngraves @JonRMcClure The American Statistical Association has a useful statement concerning the use of p-values (and significance tests) that every journalist and scholar should know about. 1/ https://t.co/4ulz0LB4jK
In 2014, Professor Cobe asked a statistics discussion forum: "Q: Why do so many colleges and grad schools teach p = 0.05? A: Because that’s still what the scientific community and journal editors use. Q: Why do so many people sti…https://t.co/7kvwu93MVm h
@sheppard_lab @DanielFalush Although there's still a wrinkle about p-values: * genes / SNPs ranked by p-value * plots / statistics generally only report p-values * no indication that the most distinguishing SNP / gene was known, but at least allele frequen
Ustedes dense: https://t.co/BbvD73ZVht
RT @gonen_mithat: Required reading for everyone, especially for non-statisticians who use p-values routinely. https://t.co/t1elAuXqZM
Required reading for everyone, especially for non-statisticians who use p-values routinely.
Have you read "The ASA's Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose" yet? It's free access and you can find it here: https://t.co/VrgxWy3dfK @AmstatNews https://t.co/OSRdwy3ebg
RT @RealRupertDBear: @RodneyTaveras @DTFinegood @nntaleb 1) p of 0.05 is arbitrary. 2) So-called "p hacking" Check this out: https://t.co/K…
@RodneyTaveras @DTFinegood @nntaleb 1) p of 0.05 is arbitrary. 2) So-called "p hacking" Check this out: https://t.co/KnSZdmR4Zh
@hoffsbeefs @NatureGenet Preferably by a statistic that has biological relevance. Absolute value of effect size is an example of that. P-values should only be used as a filter ("is this value reasonable?"), not for determining the degree of significance o
RT @RogerPielkeJr: American Statistical Association statement on -p-values Excellent: https://t.co/r7Q8uCVAhg
RT @RogerPielkeJr: American Statistical Association statement on -p-values Excellent: https://t.co/r7Q8uCVAhg
RT @RogerPielkeJr: American Statistical Association statement on -p-values Excellent: https://t.co/r7Q8uCVAhg
RT @RogerPielkeJr: American Statistical Association statement on -p-values Excellent: https://t.co/r7Q8uCVAhg
The ASA grapples with the "long-worrisome circularity in the sociology of science based on the use of bright lines such as p < 0.05: “We teach it because it’s what we do; we do it because it’s what we teach.” https://t.co/srgbBJg7no https://t.co/4B08FKM
RT @RogerPielkeJr: American Statistical Association statement on -p-values Excellent: https://t.co/r7Q8uCVAhg
RT @omnologos: "No single index should substitute for scientific reasoning". Bingo. #pvalue #Statistics #Science https://t.co/rFxM25RLXV
"No single index should substitute for scientific reasoning". Bingo. #pvalue #Statistics #Science https://t.co/rFxM25RLXV
American Statistical Association statement on -p-values Excellent: https://t.co/r7Q8uCVAhg
@chadinabhan You might be interested in the American Statistical Association's statement from 2016 on p-values along with the paper: https://t.co/0k7KKtfTCU https://t.co/IYiHSDUs8o
RT @Students4BE: The ASA’s Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose https://t.co/MG3RPrHo03
The ASA’s Statement on p-Values: Context, Process, and Purpose https://t.co/MG3RPrHo03
@hammerheadbat This is why people should listen and take in the things that statisticians say ("zuhören" vs "hören" in German), rather than assuming p-value thresholds are meaningful: https://t.co/TUDvXx6TCp
“The problem is not that people use P-values poorly, it is that the vast majority of data analysis is not performed by people properly trained to perform data analysis.” - @jtleek https://t.co/UxUPb3P4Gp
RT @oimagenta: American Statistical Association ada keluarkan statement (6 pages je) untuk explain 6 principles untuk pakai dan interpret p…